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> There are 14 messages totalling 486 lines in this issue.
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> Topics in this special issue:
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> 1. Dogcare: Doggie shampoo suggestions needed
> 2. Chat: Mosquitoes
> 3. ADMIN: New Virus, please pay attention QUESTION
> 4. CHAT: I surrender!!!!!!
> 5. Chat: Kansas Farm Dogs
> 6. chat: re: to chip or not to chip
> 7. CHAT: Hall of Fame
> 8. MEDICAL: hot spots
> 9. Help: Address Labels
> 10. CHAT: to chip or not to chip
> 11. CHAT: Kanab 2001 pictures
> 12. EVENT: Greyhound/All-Breed dog walk in Northeast Ohio
> 13. EVENT: Meet and Greet
> 14. CHAT: To chip or not to chip?
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> Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 02:02:26 -0400
> From: Stacy Pober <golightlygreyhounds@JUNO.COM>
> Subject: Re: Dogcare: Doggie shampoo suggestions needed
>
>> From: Patricia Neary <vanhussp@YAHOO.COM>
>> Any suggestions on a good shampoo that is safe on
>> greyhounds? Any to avoid?
>> I like some of the smells of the crazy dog shampoos
>> and if they are ok would get a different scent. I
>> don't know how my big boy is going to feel smelling
>> like baby powder:)
>
> I have never heard of a straight shampoo (as opposed to a flea shampoo)
> that was UNsafe for greyhounds. Some of the flea shampoos may have
> pesticides in them that you wouldn't want to use on greys, but regular
> shampoos don't seem to be a problem.
>
> We use Pert Plus for dry and damaged hair on the dogs. It's mild, it
> conditions, and as a bonus, it kills fleas. I use the brand name stuff,
> I found the generic store brands of shampoo and conditioner combos didn't
> work quite as well.
>
> Another non-traditional shampoo choice I've tried on dogs is Murphy's Oil
> Soap. Just plain old Murphys Oil Soap in the original formula with
> nothing else added (no dish detergent, no conditioner, nada). I know a
> lot of dog people that use it, and it has a particularly good reputation
> for soothing the skin of dogs with itch problems. We tried it on the
> dogs. It didn't do any harm, but it didn't condition the way the Pert
> Plus did, It was less thick so we ended up using much more of it, so it
> may actually be more expensive than using the Pert Plus.
>
> Some people think that its important that dogs use only dog shampoo
> rather than people shampoo. OTOH, we've used Pert Plus for many years.
> It makes their coats shine and feel really nice. It's not against the
> law. The dogs haven't gone bald. Nor have they learned to speak in
> grammatically correct sentences.
>
> As for pH issues, I don't know what the pH for Pert Plus is, but I know
> that the pH of Murphy's Oil Soap (the original formula, not any of the
> fancypants spray versions) is the same as the pH of water. I tried it on
> my own hair. It's not my shampoo of preference but my hair didn't come
> out in clumps, either.
>
> One more bit of shampoo advice. If you use Advantage by Bayer as flea
> control on your dogs, be sure to wait at least several days after a
> shampoo to treat them. Skin produces a substance called sebum, and
> Advantage spreads out on the body using the sebum. If you shampoo a dog
> right before using Advantage, it won't work as well. I try to shampoo,
> then wait a week before treating a dog with Advantage.
>
> Stacy "Shampoo Guinea Pig" Pober
> GolightlyGreyhounds@juno.com
>
> P.S. Though I tried the Murphy's on myself, I drew the line at testing
> Advantage. I love my dogs, but I do have my limits.
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 09:02:48 EDT
> From: Susan Williams <Greytgal@AOL.COM>
> Subject: Chat: Mosquitoes
>
> I just got some mail from Direct Coupons with some tips. This one really
> caught my eye.
>
> They say tie a fabric softener dryer sheet on a belt loop to keep mosquitoes
> away.
>
> Wonder if it will work on the dogs? Has anyone ever tried this?
>
> Sue - Toledo
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 06:53:23 -0400
> From: M&M <gwydian@EARTHLINK.NET>
> Subject: ADMIN: New Virus, please pay attention QUESTION
>
> Lynda or Gary,
>
> WHAT does deleting this file accomplish and does deleting it cause any =
> other problems??
>
> Mike & the Boys in W-NC
>
> Who has been fighting viruses & would like to break the typing fingers =
> of ALL hackers and I also LOATH Microsoft and Windows ME and wishes, oh =
> how he wishes, he would have purchased an Apple this time!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 10:10:11 -0400
> From: Holly Priestley <hip2@PSU.EDU>
> Subject: CHAT: I surrender!!!!!!
>
> Ok, I realized a LONG time ago that with Greyhounds I would never have a
> nice back yard (nice = even without craters, canals and sink holes, grass,
> etc) and that flowers and bushes with a male was an invitation for dead
> plants .... and now I have reached a new plateau. The area that was going
> to be all zinnias (to attract the black swallowtail butterflies) was
> selected by our 3 greys and 2 foster Greys to be the new site of their new
> "dig deep and take short cool naps in" space. So, I surrendered and
> compromised .. I divided the area in half and put a 32" high 10' long fence
> around a small area for zinnias. The other half of the area I dug out even
> deeper (so they aren't able to throw the dirt over the brick edging onto
> the patio) and I am going to put sand in it for them to dig in and lay in
> and sleep in ... one or two at a time.
>
> My questions is this -- has anyone else (surrendered and ) put in a sand
> pit for their dogs? If so, what kind of sand do I put in? Play sand
> (doggie sand box)? Construction sand ?? Hubby thinks play sand will be
> too fine for them.
>
> You can e-mail me privately with recommendations.
>
> Oh yeah, should include that the new Zoysia grass plugs that we spent all
> last week putting in ... we are doing it again and again and ...
>
> Holly Priestley
> **********************************
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 16:22:01 -0700
> From: Goldie Kay <greyt1mom@YAHOO.COM>
> Subject: Re: Chat: Kansas Farm Dogs
>
> Congrats on a job well done....more babies to find
> their forever homes! I am sooo glad there are so many
> beautiful people out there working for such a GREYT
> cause...High 5's to you ALL!
>
> =====
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 21:04:11 -0400
> From: multimutts <multimutts@PEOPLEPC.COM>
> Subject: chat: re: to chip or not to chip
>
> Hello Melody!
>
> Well, I have an obvious bias here .... so I won't offer advice on "what I
> would do" <giggle> as I'm sure that any of the 2000+ subscribers here could
> guess ....
>
> but you asked for anecdotes about how we knew it "was time" to keep a foster
> ..... so here's mine.
>
> I agreed to foster Snap. He's a big (okay, very big) white and fawn male
> greyhound with a history which included episodes of aggression and fear
> biting in prior homes, as well as one home in which he was returned when it
> was judged that he was "unable to bond with people" .....
>
> The day I brought Snap home, and put him in the yard ... I just stood back
> and gasped at his beauty. He's one of the most beautiful dogs I've ever
> seen .... okay, my bias is showing just a bit here .... but truly, he was
> striking as he loped about the yard even that first day.
>
> Still, he was "just a foster" and I wasn't going to get attached ..... so
> days ... then weeks .... went by. Snap showed himself to be true to the
> descriptions to a certain extent. He is a fear biter with strangers and
> people whom he doesn't trust. He is not quick to bond, but he began to
> fasten himself onto me .... I was flattered. More time went by ....
>
> The group for which I was fostering Snap has, at their demos, a bulletin
> board filled with pictures of adoptable dogs. I was a volunteer at one demo
> at which Snap was one of the "featured adoptable" dogs up on this board ....
>
> two people stopped to admire his photo ..... and, yes ... it was
> unprofessional, and curt .... and probably a good indicator of why I don't
> volunteer at these things any more .... but I found myself blurting out "but
> you two are no where NEAR good enough for that dog!"....
>
> I didn't plan to say it .... I was even surprised to hear myself .... but I
> went home and thought things over ..... and decided that "no, we don't need
> another pet" .... and Snap was going to be returned to the kennel .....
>
> but first, another demo came up .... this time, I had Snap with me.
>
> Snap is, as I said, often unsure of himself in groups of people that he
> doesn't know. He is not quick to trust .... and he is quite ill at ease in
> social engagements such as a meet & greet.
>
> So, at a certain point, Snap had taken refuge under the table ..... and I
> let him hang out there, to regroup and compose himself again ....
>
> Someone happened by ..... looked at his shaking panting form, and remarked
> to me "gee, it must be hard getting rid of dogs like that!" ..... "Getting
> Rid?" I questioned .... "Yeah, I mean, just look at him .... it must be hard
> for you guys to find anybody to take a dog as obviously messed up as that,
> right?" ....
>
> I swallowed hard ..... "Yeah, it would be really hard to find anyone to take
> him."
>
> and I left, right then ... drove home, and called the kennel.
>
> and told Michele of Greyhound Placement that nobody was ever going to be
> "getting rid" of Snap ..... not ever again.
>
> Melody, I don't know if this helps at all .... because I can see that you're
> trying to approach this thing logically .... wondering about the future
> medical costs, and so on ..... I can tell you that from my standpoint, I
> have approached none of my adoptive decisions in a totally "logical" format.
>
> No logical person has as many dogs as I and my husband have .... no logical
> family gives up vacations, and holidays, and even birthday celebrations in
> favor of stocking up on kong toys and nylabones ..... no logically thinking
> mind would have adopted my dogs, who's health conditions have ranged from
> the critical to the chronic ..... to the costly.
>
> No logical family would work around dogs with rage syndrome, space
> aggression, fear biting, dog aggression, spooks, and the like ..... no
> logical family, made up of such a constellation, would volunteer to bring
> additional puppies thru and to train them to someday be of service to
> disabled people .....
>
> I haven't done any of this logically ...... so I don't know if my little
> anecdote is helpful .....
>
> but I can tell you one thing .... one thing that may help ....
>
> I have not been sorry .... not for a second .... not for an instant .... and
> if I am certain of only one thing (and one thing is all I lay claim to, as
> any who have seen my harried chaotic home would attest <smile>) .... the one
> thing I am certain of, is that if I had done things any other way ....
>
> then I would have missed out on something .... something I consider very
> valuable .... and more valuable than the lost vacations or the missed
> birthday cakes.
>
> I would have missed out on my best friends .... complete with flaws and
> foibles ... I love them ..... and if I was to offer advice .......
>
> well, I guess you know what I would do! <LOL>
>
> be well,
> patti tate
> http://www.fluffyfables.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 18:22:22 -0700
> From: Sue Connelly <sconnely@CSASSOC.COM>
> Subject: Re: CHAT: Hall of Fame
>
> I went to this site, www.greyhound-data.com , and looked
> up my dogs. I only found the sire and dam on Holly
> (Panyo Polly) - Bobs Utah and Oshkosh Kibosh.....the
> rest were all "unknown dog".
>
> I couldn't find Winna (Coldwater Winna) in the database at
> all! But, her sire and dam, Lukes Gem and Buckeye Larhonda
> were there. Lukes Gem has Tell You Why in his past also,
> but Buckeye Larhonda has all "unknown dog" is her pedigree.
>
> I don't understand why Winna wouldn't be there if her
> parents are. I was hoping to find out a little more
> information on both of them. The only information on them
> is that they both raced in AZ. Are there any other sites
> like this one where information can be found?
>
> Sue Connelly
> Winna
> Holly
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 22:27:50 -0400
> From: kathi lacasse <rrkingmccue@WEBTV.NET>
> Subject: MEDICAL: hot spots
>
> Micatin spray or another similar product intended for "athletes foot" or
> "jock itch" works well. Cooling, soothing, and drying!
>
> kathi Lacasse-trainer
> Seabrook NH
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 07:28:45 -0600
> From: Brent & Judy <jpfaff@MONTANA.COM>
> Subject: Help: Address Labels
>
> I got some spiffy return addres labels with a brindle hound's head on them.
> Now I need more. I didn't write it down and, of course, being a woman of a
> certain age, can't remember where I got them :0( Can anyone help?
>
> Judy
> Josie, Buddy, Cissie
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 09:36:43 -0500
> From: Denise Saleh <greytgirl74@HOTMAIL.COM>
> Subject: CHAT: to chip or not to chip
>
> I too was uncertain whether or not to keep my foster boy. I always said if I
> decided to keep a dog it should be a good possible therapy dog. I t would be
> nice to give my other girl a break sometimes and have two therapy dogs in
> the family. Each dog brings his or her own style to the job. I don't know if
> my new family member will make it through a temperament test or not but he
> is so sweet. Like you described, he has some issues with his sleeping area.
> Now all family members can lay down beside him on his bed! Very big
> improvement. I think he had (at age seven) already been in two other homes
> and returned through no fault of his own. He needed love and permanence.
> Besides, he curls his front paws under when he sleeps. He is my escort
> wherever I go. I know Greys aren't known for being good watchdogs but he is
> very alert to strangers outside and no garbage man should ever enter
> uninvited. When I finally said "OK your mine, Buddy", I really relaxed and
> fell all the way. My whole family now does the sickening baby talk to him
> (even my husband).
> Somehow you just know when it's right,
> Have some dip with that?
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 09:02:12 -0600
> From: "Shapiro, Gary L" <gary.l.shapiro@LMCO.COM>
> Subject: CHAT: Kanab 2001 pictures
>
> Hi, gang! I finally got my pictures online. Have a look:
> http://www.abap.org/home/Gary6a76/kanab1.htm
>
> Gary and the Garrison (mailto:gary.l.shapiro@lmco.com)
> Dash - 1 1/2-year-old GSD - aka The Big Slobbering Wimp (I'm in the pictures
> and you're not!)
> Dot - 4-year-old Greyhound - aka The Queen of Sheba (Will someone put a
> muzzle on that dog?)
> Allan - 4-year-old Greyhound - aka The Blue Bandit (Where's my bunny?)
> Max and Willow (King of the GSDs and the Greyhound American Princess
> together again at the Bridge)
> http://www.abap.org/home/Gary6a76/index.htm
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:18:59 EDT
> From: Ricardo Rodriguez <RJRJLP@AOL.COM>
> Subject: EVENT: Greyhound/All-Breed dog walk in Northeast Ohio
>
>> From Linda Perko
> Greyhound Adoption of Ohio
>
> Hi All!
>
> Greyhound Adoption of Ohio will be hosting the "Buzzard Strut" all-breed dog
> walk to help retired and rejected racing greyhounds. All breeds are welcome.
> It will take place this Sunday, May 20th, in Hinckley, Ohio. The name
> (Buzzard Strut) comes from the fact that Hinckley is known as the place where
> the buzzards return each spring. Walkers are welcome to walk their own
> greyhounds, non-greyhounds, or to walk one of the thirty-one dogs we have
> awaiting placement. For info, please go to our web site: <A
> HREF="http://greyhoundadoptionofoh.org/">greyhoundadoptionofoh.org</A>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 21:06:40 -0400
> From: Bob and Gae Underhill <guru@WORLDPATH.NET>
> Subject: EVENT: Meet and Greet
>
> The Central New Hampshire chapter of Greyhound Pets of America will be
> holding their monthly Meet and Greet at Petco, Lafayette Road, Portsmouth,
> NH, this Saturday, May 19, from 11 a.m. to 3 p.m.
>
> If you're out and about, stop by and meet our hounds. We'd love to see you.
>
> Gae Underhill, Volunteer
> (and Proud Mom to Robb)
> GPA-CNHC
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 18:58:15 -0700
> From: Sue Connelly <sconnely@CSASSOC.COM>
> Subject: Re: CHAT: To chip or not to chip?
>
> Hi Melody-
>
> We've had our newest girl, Holly, since the end of March,
> and we've had Winna for four years, since April 1997.
> We had no desire to get another dog....we were very
> happy with just one, and Winna was happy also, I think,
> because she seems to be more of a people dog and is rather
> aloof toward other dogs.
>
> We stopped at a booth that the Greyhound Adoption League
> (where we got Winna) had at a street fair, just to say
> hello. My husband started talking to a little black girl
> laying in the corner, and for some reason was very taken
> with her, possibly because she was a special needs dog
> with epilepsy, who's owner had died. When we went home,
> (and on the way home) we talked a lot about her, still not
> sure if we wanted another dog, but not ready to say we
> didn't. I called Gary Tracy who was keeping Holly, and
> told him of our predicament. Gary, being a smart man,
> suggested we foster her for a while to see how it worked
> out. I think we only lasted about two weeks before we
> decided she was in her forever home.
>
> Winna and Holly are happy with each other and run together
> in our yard. Holly is quite shy and still doesn't play
> with any stuffies yet, but we have high hopes. She
> cockoached on the davenport this week for the first time.
>
> I think what did it for me was the feeling that I didn't
> want Holly to have to try to get used to another home...
> ours was the third she'd had. Plus, I feel that it was
> meant to be, because it was just a coincidence that she
> was there that day (she wasn't there for the purpose of
> being up for adoption), and that we came along during
> the short time she was there, and that my husband (who
> really didn't want another dog) was drawn to her.
>
> Sue Connelly
> Winna
> Holly
>
> ------------------------------
>
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