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> There are 12 messages totalling 452 lines in this issue.
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> Topics in this special issue:
>
> 1. Chat/Medical: Losing Dogs While Under
> 2. CHAT: Lurchers
> 3. CHAT: Would your DOG do this? )
> 4. Chat, Special, Events: GPA National Conference
> 5. Chat, Special: Lucky Omen, Nov 17, 1992 - May 22, 2001
> 6. chat/special: Greyhound Found With No Tags
> 7. CHAT: AOL is MIA
> 8. Chat: Track Adoptions
> 9. Chat: Thanks for the greyhound-l "fix"
> 10. Chat, Help, Special: Track adoption kennels
> 11. CHAT/MEDICAL: Losing dogs while under
> 12. RESOURCES: Adopt-a-Senior-Greyhound Month benefit auctions
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> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 09:45:45 -0700
> From: Sbartel <sbartel@SOS.NET>
> Subject: Re: Chat/Medical: Losing Dogs While Under
>
> I am a human anesthesiologist and owner of multiple greyhounds. Anesthesia
> can be "induced" or initiated in two ways - by IV injection of drugs or mask
> inhalation of gas. Typically after the IV induction anesthesia gas is still
> used for the "maintenance" phase or to keep the patient asleep. My vet uses
> Halothane gas anesthesia and does "mask inductions" for the dogs. You must
> be extremely skilled to use Halothane however because it has other problems
> associated with its use - such as causing irregular heartbeat (in humans and
> dogs) and requires precise delivery. However, Halothane is, in effect, the
> gold standard for mask induction because of it's smoothness and my vet is
> extremely skilled in its use for general anesthesia.
>
> However, most vets have done away with Halothane and now use Isoflurane.
> Isoflurane is a far safer anesthetic for general anesthesia because of the
> elimination of the problems with irregular heartbeat but when used for mask
> induction does have lots of problems with coughing, struggling and breath
> holding that were infrequent with use of Halothane. Sedation prior to
> induction can be used as that decreases the problem with struggling and
> overall makes it a safer experience. Or the newer agent Propofol (which is
> safe for sighthounds) can be used for IV induction, then followed by the
> Isoflurane.
>
> However a much safer and better anesthetic gas is the newer agent
> Sevoflurane. This has completely replaced Halothane for mask induction in
> our practice. There is almost no breath holding or excitment and the agent
> is also a very safe one. While we use Isoflurane extensively for general
> anesthesia after IV induction it was never even under consideration for use
> in mask induction because of its problems with breath holding, etc. I don't
> know if there are any veterinarians routinely using Sevoflurance at this
> time so I would ask my vet about propofol induction to make things less
> traumatic.
>
> Here's a veterinary reference on sighthound anesthesia.
> http://www.saluki.com/scoa/healthan.htm
>
> Sheryl Bartel, MD
> Helios Greyhounds
> www.heliosgreyhounds.com
>
>> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 23:34:47 -0400
>> From: Michael & Natasha Harhold <greyhounddog@EARTHLINK.NET>
>> Subject: Chat/Medical: Losing Dogs While Under
>>
>> Marilyn said:
>> I have four Italian greyhounds and each one of them are
>> masked down on Isoflorane, thre is some struggling when they start going
>> under
>> but they don't have a problem.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 15:09:16 -0400
> From: Lois Grafton <heartdog@DOG.COM>
> Subject: CHAT: Lurchers
>
> I went to look at the Michigan REGAP's website. Looking good!
>
> I was a little surprised at the definition of a lurcher though. Maybe in
> Genessee county, Michigan, lurchers are usually found to be a cross between a
> coonhound and a greyhound, but the true definition of a lurcher is a cross
> between a greyhound and any other breed of dog. For more information,
> definitions and pictures, go to http://www.lurcher.com/. Here in the U.S.,
> lurchers aren't as common as they are in Great Britain, where "lurchermen" are
> still common, and deliberate cross-breeding is still done by huntsmen. And if
> somebody in Michigan is breeding coonhounds with greyhounds to race them
> (illegally), I have to wonder at the choice of a coonhound... Maybe just what
> they had on hand?
>
> Lois
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 15:33:54 -0400
> From: Marilyn & Jerry Lomashewich <lomashew@NETONECOM.NET>
> Subject: CHAT: Would your DOG do this? )
>
>>
>
> if you need a laugh today here's your chance.
> naw they're to well trained right?????
>
> http://www.cyberdaniacsintl.com/tiny.htm
>
>
>
> MARILYN LOMASHEWICH Cedar Springs Michigan lomashew@netonecom.net
> PODERE DEL VOLO: http://members.aol.com/AJULIG/VOLOIGS.html
> SHSCOATS&COLLARS:http://members.aol.com/RescueIGS/GREYHOUND-COLLARS.html
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 16:08:01 -0700
> From: Ady <greyt@BELLSOUTH.NET>
> Subject: Chat, Special, Events: GPA National Conference
>
> Another reminder that the GPA conference will be held in Atlanta Aug. 10 -
> 12. Adoption groups not affiliated with GPA are welcome also. For those
> who have registered online don't forget that your registration check must be
> received by July 1 for the discounted rate.
>
> Please visit our website for registration and conference information
> www.greyhoundadoption.org, we will have a tentative schedule on there
> shortly. If you have any questions you can contact me at
> greyt@bellsouth.net or seadopt@greyhoundadoption.org.
>
> And.......our featured speaker will be Lee Livingood :-)
>
> Ady
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:28:12 -0400
> From: "Meredith E. Pickering" <plan2@CAPECOD.NET>
> Subject: Chat, Special: Lucky Omen, Nov 17, 1992 - May 22, 2001
>
> It is with great grief and heavy hearts that we announce the pending =
> departure of our beloved Lucky Omen for the Rainbow Bridge at 2 pm est =
> this afternoon.
>
> In April of 2000, Lucky was diagnosed with osteosarcoma, and his leg was =
> amputated on April 11, 2000. On February 16, 2001, Lucky survived =
> bloat. Over the last 1 year, 1 month, and 11 days, Lucky has loved life =
> to the fullest, talking expressively, nitting stuffies compulsively, and =
> spreading good natured charm wherever he went. On May 2, 2001, after =
> trying for months to diagnose a difficult back problem, my wonderful vet =
> gave me the bad news: it had spread to the lungs.
>
> Lucky is Jess' "heart dog", his bright, affectionate, spoiled boy, and =
> his first greyhound. Lucky is also a part of my heart, and we are both =
> going to miss him desparately, from his 'airplane ears' to his silly =
> vocalization to his sincere and earnest love of food. Lucky slept with =
> us every night, and until recently, dominated the house with his =
> personality. If it could be said that any dog got by on sheer charisma, =
> Lucky certainly did.
>
> Lucky is survived by Dustin, age 13 going on 2!, Cooper, age almost 11, =
> and ShaeLeigh, age 6. Don't let anyone tell you that we don't need to =
> fight for a cure or at least a treatment to the dreadful disease of bone =
> cancer. Lucky is only 8 and a half: we had hoped to see him age =
> gracefully.
>
> Meredith & Jess
> Cape Cod, MA
> Dustin, Cooper, ShaeLeigh, and Lucky (turning right at the North Star =
> and heading for the Rainbow Bridge)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 14:36:46 -0500
> From: Lenka Perron <lenka@PROVIDE.NET>
> Subject: chat/special: Greyhound Found With No Tags
>
> We are on our way to picking up a greyhound found 30 minutes outside of
> Windsor. All we have our tattoo numbers. We will have more when the dog is
> in our hands. There were no tags or collar.
>
> Any groups who place in this area, please look for: 27B (?) and 64667
> tattoos.
>
> Call the following pager if it is your dog: 810-309-7273
>
> Thank you,
> Lenka Perron
> Michigan REGAP
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 16:08:16 EDT
> From: Candy Beck <JBeck72726@AOL.COM>
> Subject: CHAT: AOL is MIA
>
> Ellen said: <AOLers: thanks for your patience while AOL decided all lsoft
> lists were not
>> actually spam.>
>
> I had to laugh. The Isoft list didn't get through but the SPAM sure did. :-)
>
> Candy & The Kids: Merlin, Doc, Isis, Reggie, Teva & Angel Phoenix
> Greyhound Companions of New Mexico
> www.gcnm.org
> Albuquerque, New Mexico
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:54:14 -0700
> From: Cynthia Cash <greyarch@YAHOO.COM>
> Subject: Chat: Track Adoptions
>
> Hi All: In response to Jennifer's query on the
> screening process at track adoption programs, all I
> know first hand is my experience. I called the nearest
> track, Mobile, drove 3 hours over, and picked out Miss
> Peaches (actually it was Alice, my then geriatric
> Abysinnean cat that chose Peaches......Peaches was the
> only one she didn't hiss at.......and of course I was
> smitten at first sight......those eyes!).
> There was a form to fill out. I did have to list my
> vet. I was told they could do the spay for an
> additional $50 but I would have to leave her and come
> back in a week. Or I could take her with me, which is
> what I opted to do. So basically, I went in, picked
> out a dog, wrote out a check for $50 and left with no
> screening and no spay. There was also no follow up,
> although I was added to the mailing list for the
> annual picnic of track adoption dogs.
> Of course this has been years ago and perhaps they
> have changed their policy by now.
> In recent years, I have been called in to rescue
> two different dogs that were adopted out by the same
> track program that Jennifer was referring to. The
> track is West Memphis. For one, the greyhound was
> running the streets of downtown Nashville and the
> other was brought into a shelter in Little Rock. The
> tags of both lead back to West Memphis adoption
> program and when I called them, they had no way to
> take the dogs back in. One we flew to Phillie and I
> can't remember how we handled the other, but it was
> resolved by local people.
> I guess it's like everything else, there are
> responsible groups and there are some
> not-so-responsible groups. Everyone is working within
> their given parameters.There are some stellar adoption
> programs out there: Phoenix, Daytona, Lincoln, etc. ,
> but sadly there are some that aren't as thorough. Fill
> out a form, write a check, and the dog is yours. I
> know as Myke said, everyone gets returns and people
> misrepresent themselves, but with a program like that,
> you are asking for problems.
> When I look back on adopting Peaches, knowing what
> I know now, I'm always amazed we made it. Of course,
> that would be because I simply got lucky with the
> greyhound from heaven :) You can see my Peaches as
> Miss May in the 1998 CG Calender.
> Cynthia Cash
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 17:34:01 EDT
> From: Eileen Saks <GOLDDOT2@AOL.COM>
> Subject: Chat: Thanks for the greyhound-l "fix"
>
> Hi,
> Whoever had the idea to post some digests of greyhound-l on the webpage,
> thank you!! I hope it will be done again. We who have AOL are still not
> getting mail. I got 3 digests on Sunday and celebrated. The celebration was
> premature. I haven't gotten any since. Anyway, I do thank the administrators
> for posting some, so we AOLers can get our "fix".
> Eileen
> Who will not get to see if this is posted. :-(
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 23:01:29 GMT
> From: Richard Lobb <rlobb@CWCOM.NET>
> Subject: Chat, Help, Special: Track adoption kennels
>
> On Mon, 21 May 2001 16:27:27 -0400, Jennifer Watkins
> <jwatkin@BEECHMONTPRESS.COM> wrote:
>
>> I am not trying to start a debate, but I have a serious question =
> regarding
>> the screening practices of Track adoption kennels.
>>
>> The story...
>>
>> I know with our adoption group we require 1.) Written application, 2.) =
> phone
>> interview, 3.) Home visit. Once those steps have been completed then - =
> and
>> only then - do we discuss individual dogs for adoption. We use only =
> foster
>> homes, so we have a pretty good idea of what our Greys are like before =
> we
>> place them in their permanent home.
>
> We run a track adoption scheme. We require 1.) Phone or
> personal interview 2) Kennel visit and 3) Home visit. Once those steps
> have been completed then - and only then - do we discuss individual
> dogs for adoption.
> We only use our kennels - so we have an excellent idea of
> what our Greys are like before we place them in their permanent home.
> It is the consensus of all our combined experience with the particular
> dog. Most of our dog handlers have 20 plus years experience in dog
> adoption. Then we match the adopter to the dog bearing in mind the
> adopter's requirements. We refuse to adopt a dog that we deem is
> unsuitable to an adopter.
>
>> My question is - what type of screening occured? Can you go to a track =
> and
>> walk out with a dog? Her husband - who did not want a greyhound - did =
> not
>> sign the contact. Was that taken into consideration? Were references
>> checked? Also, how do they check on dogs that are placed so far away?
>
> Here the track and kennels are completely separate - No
> signing of adoption contract no adoption. We rarely check references
> because references are rarely given. We only adopt if the home can be
> checked physically by someone we trust. We normally adopt locally.
>
>> This is the second dog we have gotten under these circumstances - are we
>> alone? Do the Track adoption kennels have a follow-up procedure? Our
>> adoption group does - and yes it takes work, but it is important.
>
> We make follow up phone calls at suitable intervals depending
> on circumstances and expect them to visit the kennels afterwards with
> the dog. We run phone and e-mail helplines. We have started picnics
> which encourage people to bring their dog.. =20
>
>> As I said, I am not trying to start a debate, but this situation really
>> concerns me. I know there is no way for anyone to know this person had =
> been
>> turned down by our adoption group, but did they not see the same warning
>> signs we did? We never even sent an application to them, because of =
> things
>> that were said on the initial phone conversation.
>
> One snag is that the person could have learnt what the
> "correct" answers were from *your* interview. There is no real answer
> to this type of problem - because all circumstance can change and some
> adopters can lie very effectively - or refuse to think carefully..
> Example - we were told there were no *very* young children in
> the household - We had emphasised the dog (pup) was unsuitable with
> children under six. However the woman completely ignored that she had
> a grandchild that visited regularly. We couldn't tell - I'd seen all
> of the permanent occupiers. The next time the grandchild came - he was
> scared witless by the dog - who had gone into ballistic puppy playmode
> - with his teeth - as puppies are prone to do. The damage to the child
> is actually slight - but the adopter tried to dump the dog. The only
> reason the dog wasn't lost was because of a follow up phone call came
> before the deed was done.
>
> All that can be done is to grit your teeth and hope that it
> doesn't happen again.
>
> Unless all prospective adopters were entered into a central
> data-base and this was searched each and every time. These things will
> happen. Such a database would probably be illegal.
>
>
> Richard from London UK -- rlobb@cwcom.net
> Ben, Beauty, Bessie (Brutus 1977 - 1997 @ RB)
> Greyhounds are for life not just for racing!!
> Walthamstow Homefinding Scheme
> Visit our Kennels http://www.greyhounds.cwc.net
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 23:01:31 GMT
> From: Richard Lobb <rlobb@CWCOM.NET>
> Subject: Re: CHAT/MEDICAL: Losing dogs while under
>
> On Mon, 21 May 2001 23:09:21 -0700, Suzanne Waldenberger
> <suzanne@FOLKLORIST.ZZN.COM> wrote:
>
>> We've lost two in the last four years (aprox. 500 dogs), both from
>> hyperthermia. Both at the same place, which we don't use anymore,
>> though not necessarily because of these two deaths. I don't know if
>> we ever did know why it happened. I sure don't.
>>
> We've lost one five years ago - none in the 30 years before that as
> far as anyone can recall - (changed vet as possible incompetence) -
> but have heard that losing greyhounds during spaying seems to be
> increasing - that is a number of people have lost one relatively
> recently. Idle speculation here is that it could be linked with season
> suppression - only as the increase seems to have occurred as
> suppression has become more common.
> Richard from London UK -- rlobb@cwcom.net
> Ben, Beauty, Bessie (Brutus 1977 - 1997 @ RB)
> Greyhounds are for life not just for racing!!
> Walthamstow Homefinding Scheme
> Visit our Kennels http://www.greyhounds.cwc.net
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 20:00:16 -0500
> From: Kate Bressler <kate@K8NKC.COM>
> Subject: RESOURCES: Adopt-a-Senior-Greyhound Month benefit auctions
>
> Hey, everybody
>
> The second Adopt-a-Senior-Greyhound Month Benefit auction ends tomorrow night.
>
> Proceeds of this auction go to Greyhounds Unlimited of Dallas, TX -
> http://www.greyhoundsunlimited.org/
>
> Greyhounds Unlimited routinely has a dozen or so seniors waiting for homes.
> Right now they have 17 seniors ... and 4 special needs dogs.
>
> Golden Greyhound Grab-bag #2
> http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1238929104
>
> A fun collection that includes a "You are Special Today" cookie jar,
> Get-up-and-Go Glucosamine, a spectacular collar made by AAB Ann Peterson, a
> Northcoast GH Support cap, plus a bunch of other fun stuff.
>
> The bonus is donated by Northcoat GH Support and you gotta see this! It is
> a really neat wine stand and a pair of etched and gold-filled wine glasses.
> The glasses are etched with NCGS's Mike & Betty images - please check this
> out.
>
> Seniors Rule!
>
> Hug those Hounds!
> Kate, Sue & Ann
>
> ------------------------------
>
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