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> Topics in this special issue:
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> 1. chat: lurchers in Michigan
> 2. CHAT: A camera within reach
> 3. Medical: Losing Dogs While Under
> 4. Special: Track Adoptions
> 5. Chat: lurchers
> 6. Chat-Track Adoption
> 7. CHAT/MEDICAL: Losing dogs while under
> 8. CHAT: DOG DEFINITIONS
> 9. CHAT: Would your DOG do this? )
> 10. MEDICAL, CHAT: Fecal incontinent?
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> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 23:25:13 -0400
> From: Kathy Johnson <conuremom@HOME.COM>
> Subject: chat: lurchers in Michigan
>
> Lois wrote:
>> And if somebody in Michigan is breeding coonhounds with greyhounds to race
>> them
>> (illegally), I have to wonder at the choice of a coonhound... Maybe just
>> what
>> they had on hand?
>
> I have no proof of this, but I've heard a rumor (more than once) that someone
> up
> here in MI is breeding greyhounds with various hunting dogs to use to hunt
> coyotes and other game animals. There have been several untattooed greyhounds
> turned over to adoption groups up here over the past few years that are
> obviously not AKC hounds. The same rumor about the hunting dog lurchers has it
> that these untattooed greyhounds are retired (or escaped or stolen) breeding
> animals from whoever is creating these hunting dog lurchers. Again, I have no
> idea if any of this is actually true, but this rumor sure has made the rounds.
> I've heard it many times in the 6 years I've been involved with greyhounds &
> adoption.
>
> --Kathy Johnson
> Feathered Gems Greyhound Jewelry
> http://www.featheredgems.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 06:24:28 GMT
> From: Richard Lobb <rlobb@CWCOM.NET>
> Subject: CHAT: A camera within reach
>
>>> What can be done to prevent my dog pictures from having the "Vampire
>>> Eye"--white or green reflection of the pupil in the flash? We use a
>>
> Putting a thin white cloth over the flash lens will diffuse
> the light reducing or eliminating "red eye" (reflection from the
> retina) - however the output of the flash is compromised and will be
> lower which may cause underexposure - which may be redressed by
> manipulation in your photo editing software..=20
> But if you are talking about the *white* reflection from the
> surface of the eye caused by the flash - then you can't eliminate it
> except by switching off the flash.=20
> A cause of a *green* reflection could be from light bouncing
> from a green coloured object to the eye to the camera - Solution? move
> or cover green object.
> Hope this helps! :-) =20
> Richard from London UK -- rlobb@cwcom.net
> Ben, Beauty, Bessie (Brutus 1977 - 1997 @ RB)
> Greyhounds are for life not just for racing!!
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 06:38:31 -0400
> From: Stacy Pober <golightlygreyhounds@JUNO.COM>
> Subject: Re: Medical: Losing Dogs While Under
>
>> However, most vets have done away with Halothane and now use
>> Isoflurane. Isoflurane is a far safer anesthetic for general anesthesia
>> because of the elimination of the problems with irregular heartbeat
>> but when used for mask induction does have lots of problems with
>> coughing, struggling and breath holding that were infrequent with
>> use of Halothane. Sedation prior to induction can be used as that
>> decreases the problem with struggling and overall makes it a safer
>> experience. Or the newer agent Propofol (which is safe for
>> sighthounds) can be used for IV induction, then followed by the
>> Isoflurane.
>
> Sheryl,
>
> There are safe sedative agents (and even 15 or 20 years
> ago, there were some vets migrating away from barbiturates for
> this, using ketamine/valium mixes and similar). So why does your
> vet mask down without using them? I've read that if an animal is
> stressed by being masked down, you're adding an unnecessary
> element of risk. I realize not every animal stresses out in this way,
> but it isn't rare, either.
>>
>> However a much safer and better anesthetic gas is the newer agent
>> Sevoflurane. This has completely replaced Halothane for mask
>> induction in our practice.
>> I don't know if there are any veterinarians routinely using Sevoflurance
>
>> at this time
>
> It's probably an anesthetic we'll be seeing used more often in the next
> few years. Here's some references:
>
> Comparison of isoflurane with sevoflurane for anesthesia induction and
> recovery in adult dogs.
> Johnson RA, Striler E, Sawyer DC, Brunson DB
> Am J Vet Res 1998 Apr;59(4):478-481
> http://www.inno-vet.com/articles/1998/0698/42.htm
> "Using a cross-over design, dogs were randomly selected to receive
> sevoflurane or isoflurane via a face mask and a circle anesthetic system.
> Using a cross-over design, dogs were randomly selected to receive
> sevoflurane or isoflurane via a face mask and a circle anesthetic system.
> [...] RESULTS: Sevoflurane induction resulted in shorter time to loss of
> alpebral reflex, negative tail clamp response, and time to tracheal
> intubation, and was of better quality than isoflurane induction. Both
> anesthetics were associated with rapid and smooth recovery. CONCLUSIONS:
> Sevoflurane mask induction is faster and of better quality, compared with
> isoflurane, in adult dogs. Recovery time and quality are comparable.
> CLINICAL RELEVANCE: On the basis of these results, sevoflurane is a
> suitable inhalant anesthetic for mask induction and recovery in adult
> dogs and appears to have some advantages over isoflurane, including
> faster and smoother mask induction."
>
>
> Poster session at the Mondial veterinary conference
> http://www.cnvspa.com/mondialvet99/wsava/cc/posters/ANAESTHESIE%20SOINS%20INTE
> NSIFS/gomez.htm
>
>
> "Background: Isoflurane is a halogenated volatile anaesthetic that
> generally is used in veterinary medicine for patients with high
> anaesthetic risk. Sevoflurane and desflurane are two new inhalation
> anaesthetics that have recently been introduced in human medicine.
> Several studies report that desflurane and sevoflurane produce a rapid
> and smooth induction of anaesthesia, provide a good controllable
> maintenance anaesthesia with a faster recovery from anaesthesia, and the
> levels of cardiorespiratory depression are aceptable. Aims: the purpose
> of this study was to compare cardiorespiratory and clinical effects of
> desflurane, sevoflurane and isoflurane in dogs. "
> "Methods: seven healthy mixed breed dogs were included in this study.
> Each dog recived three anaesthetic protocols: medetomidine as
> premedicant, propofol as inductor and desflurane, sevoflurane or
> isoflurane in maintenance of anaesthesia. Heart rate, respiratory rate,
> arterial blood pressures, rectal temperature, oxyhemoglobin saturation,
> end-tidal carbon dioxide, tidal volume, minute volume, inspired and
> expired concentrations of each anaesthetic, and recovery times were
> measured during each treatment. "
> "Results: arterial blood pressure and tidal volume showed values
> statisticaly lower in desflurane and isoflurane protocols. End-tidal
> carbon dioxide was higher during desflurane and isoflurane anaesthesia.
> Recovery times were statisticaly similar for the three anaesthetics."
> "Conclusion: results suggest that sevoflurane provides less
> cardiorespiratory depression than desflurane and isoflurane."
>
> Economic considerations of the use of new anesthetics: a comparison of
> propofol, sevoflurane,desflurane, and isoflurane.
> Boldt J, Jaun N, Kumle B, Heck M, Mund K
> Anesth Analg 1998 Mar 86:3 504-9
> http://www.inno-vet.com/articles/1998/0698/41.htm
> [Note - this one was not a dog study, but some of the conclusions may be
> relevant]
>
> "Eighty patients undergoing either subtotal thyroidectomy or laparoscopic
> cholecystectomy were randomly divided into four groups, with 20 patients
> in each group. Group 1 received propofol 1%/sufentanil, Group 2 received
> desflurane/sufentanil, Group 3 received sevoflurane/sufentanil, and Group
> 4 received isoflurane/sufentanil (standard anesthesia) for anesthesia. "
> "Total (intra- and postoperative) costs were significantly higher in the
> propofol group ($30.73 per patient; $0.24 per minute of anesthesia). The
> costs among the inhalational groups did not differ significantly
> (approximately $0.15 per minute of anesthesia). [...] Consumption of the
> new inhaled drugs sevoflurane and desflurane was measured in comparison
> to a standard anesthetic regimen using isoflurane and an IV technique
> using propofol. Propofol-based anesthesia was associated with the highest
> costs, whereas the costs of the new inhaled anesthetics sevoflurane and
> desflurane did not differ from those of a standard, isoflurane-based
> anesthesia regimen. "
>
> Stacy Pober
> GolightlyGreyhounds@juno.com
>
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>
> Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 07:23:35 -0500
> From: Trudi Marino <trudi@MARINO.CX>
> Subject: Re: Special: Track Adoptions
>
> We adopted Casanove from Lake Geneva track in Wisconsin. The adoption
> process was very strict. Ted and I joke about it now, but it was almost
> scary the way Betty, the adoption lady, interviewed us.
> We are about a 2 hour drive from the track. We called first and made an
> appointment for what we thought was a meeting to pick up a greyhound, but
> turned out to be a 2 hour drive for an interview. Betty "talked" with us
> for over an hour. We discussed previous dogs we had owned, what happened to
> them, why we liked different breeds, etc. Betty also steered the
> conversation to cover, children, grandchildren, neighborhood children, cats,
> chickens, squirrels, rabbits, neighborhood pets, visitors, work habits,
> sleeping habits, play habits, vacation plans, and life in general.
> Then we filled out an application that included references for our vet
> and three friends -- at least one of whom had to be a neighbor. We were
> allowed to watch a dog race and the dog-of-the-day was brought to the
> interview room. Betty explained that this dog was difinitely not going to
> be "our" dog, -- but that part of the interview was to see how we interacted
> with a greyhound. (This was really tough because the dog they showed us was
> simply georgous and friendly and I wanted him so badly--but I was too afraid
> of Betty to beg for him).
> After the interview, we were sent home. Betty said we could be waiting
> for several days or several months while she found the perfect fit for us.
> (I suppose the several months part was in there to discourage us in case our
> references didn't check out.) Betty told us she would check our references
> and get back to us. She explained that we would not be "picking" out a
> dog. She knew the dogs and their personalities and would pick one that was
> a good fit for us. We were asked if we had any preferences for gender, age,
> and color.
> A few days later our neighbor called to say she had just spent about 20
> minutes on the phone with Betty. We later learned that Betty had called our
> vet and other two referernces and done a "thorough" phone interview with
> each of them.
> Four days after the interview, Betty called to say that we could come
> back on Sunday at 6:00 p.m. and pick up our new dog, Casanova, a 2 1/2 year
> old white and blue brindle male. He had just been returned after 11 days
> with a family who gave no explanation for not wanting him any longer except
> to say he didn't like being crated. So we waited like expectant parents
> until Sunday. We were outside Betty's office by 5:30 just waiting for her
> to flip the sign on her office door from "closed" to "open". Once
> inside, we spotted Casanova lying on a blanket in the area of the office
> that was an imitation "living room" area. He was not what we expected at
> all and I doubt that we would have ever picked him from a group of dogs, but
> he was sweet and looked at me with those eye-liner eyes and it was love.
> We signed a check for $100 (I think), and the contract. Betty made us read
> sections of the contract out loud. It took almost an hour for Betty to
> lecture us and for us to make all of our promises.
> Yep, Betty was tough and scary. And every night I finish my prayers
> with a "God, bless Betty".
> Trudi
>
> Casanova (the gentleman)
> Jake (wash-n-wear Jaky-Poo)
> TNT Greyhounds http://www.marino.cx
>
> trudi@marino.cx
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 21:16:32 -0400
> From: Lake Erie Greyhound Rescue <greyhound@NCWEB.COM>
> Subject: Re: Chat: lurchers
>
>> I was a little surprised at the definition of a lurcher though. Maybe in
>> Genessee county, Michigan, lurchers are usually found to be a cross between a
>> coonhound and a greyhound, but the true definition of a lurcher is a cross
>> between a greyhound and any other breed of dog.
>
> That is true. However, in the midwestern states, a very high percentage
> of lurchers are Greyhound-coonhound crosses. In fact, about 95% of the
> time, when a shelter swears it has a purebred Greyhound, it's a
> Greyhound-coonhound mix.
>
>> For more information,
>> definitions and pictures, go to http://www.lurcher.com/. Here in the U.S.,
>> lurchers aren't as common as they are in Great Britain, where "lurchermen"
>> are
>> still common, and deliberate cross-breeding is still done by huntsmen. And
>> if
>> somebody in Michigan is breeding coonhounds with greyhounds to race them
>> (illegally), I have to wonder at the choice of a coonhound... Maybe just
>> what
>> they had on hand?
>
> I imagine it's intentional. Folks in Ohio are breeding coonhounds with
> Greyhounds to race them, too. And people in Ohio, Illinois, Indiana,
> Michigan, and no doubt other states are breeding coonhounds to
> Greyhounds to produce faster coon-hunting dogs.
>
> --
> Sally Hennessey
> Lake Erie Greyhound Rescue, Inc.
> http://greyhound.marinar.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 07:23:14 -0700
> From: Mary Ann Somervill <maspro1@YAHOO.COM>
> Subject: Re: Chat-Track Adoption
>
> Hi--
> I'm new to this list and have been lurking for a
> while. I want to adopt a greyhound near the end of
> the summer. (Will be traveling during the summer and
> want to wait till I'll be home full time to adopt.)
> My thinking is that I'd prefer to adopt from a track.
> I want to be the first real home in my dog's life, his
> or her first non-track owner. I don't want to
> separate a dog from his/her foster home. I'd be
> interested you the reactions of those of you who know
> far more about this than I do.
> Thanks,
> Mary Ann
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 16:06:50 +0100
> From: Andrea J Chee <andrea@BLOODAXE.COM>
> Subject: Re: CHAT/MEDICAL: Losing dogs while under
>
> In article <3b0ee525.22269666@SMTP.CWCOM.NET>, Richard Lobb
> <rlobb@CWCOM.NET> writes
>
>> We've lost one five years ago - none in the 30 years before that as
>> far as anyone can recall - (changed vet as possible incompetence) -
>> but have heard that losing greyhounds during spaying seems to be
>> increasing - that is a number of people have lost one relatively
>> recently. Idle speculation here is that it could be linked with season
>> suppression - only as the increase seems to have occurred as
>> suppression has become more common.
>
> Or perhaps it's just that an ever-increasing number of greyhounds are
> being neutered and homed in the first place. Over the years the numbers
> being rehomed has grown phenomenally, and at the same time neutering has
> become more popular in all breeds. One fatality from 100 neutered
> greyhounds is no different from 100 fatalities from 10,000 neutered
> greyhounds, but will sure produce a lot more people reporting that
> they've encountered a fatality.
>
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>
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 22:38:04 -0400
> From: Marilyn & Jerry Lomashewich <lomashew@NETONECOM.NET>
> Subject: CHAT: DOG DEFINITIONS
>
> Dog Definitions
>
> LEASH: A strap which attaches to your collar, enabling you to lead
> your people where you want them to go.
>
> DOG BED: Any soft, clean surface, such as the white bedspread in the
> guest room or the newly upholstered couch in the living room.
>
> DROOL: Is what you do when your persons have food and you don't. To
> do this properly you must sit as close as you can and look sad and let
> the drool fall to the floor, or better yet, on their
> laps.
>
> SNIFF: A social custom to use when you greet other dogs. Place your
> nose as close as you can to the other dog's rear end and inhale deeply,
> repeat several times, or until your person
> makes you stop. This can also be done to human's crotches.
>
> GARBAGE CAN: A container which your neighbors put out once a week to
> test your ingenuity. You must stand on your hind legs and try to push
> the lid off with your nose. If you do it right
> you are rewarded with margarine wrappers to shred, beef bones to consume
> and moldy crusts of bread.
>
> BICYCLES: Two-wheeled exercise machines, invented for dogs to control
> body fat. To get maximum aerobic benefit, you must hide behind a bush
> and dash out, bark loudly and run alongside
> for a few yards; the person then swerves and falls into the bushes, and
> you prance away.
>
> DEAFNESS: This is a malady which affects dogs when their person wants
> them in and they want to stay out. Symptoms include staring blankly at
> the person, then running in the opposite
> direction, or lying down.
>
> THUNDER: This is a signal that the world is coming to an end. Humans
> remain amazingly calm during thunderstorms, so it is necessary to warn
> them of the danger by trembling
> uncontrollably, panting, rolling your eyes wildly, and following at
> their heels.
>
> WASTEBASKET: This is a dog toy filled with paper, envelopes, and old
> candy wrappers. When you get bored, turn over the basket and strew the
> papers all over the house until your person
> comes home.
>
> SOFAS: Are to dogs like napkins are to people. After eating it is
> polite to run up and down the front of the sofa and wipe your whiskers
> clean.
>
> BATH: This is a process by which the humans drench the floor, walls
> and themselves. You can help by shaking vigorously and frequently.
>
> BUMP: The best way to get your human's attention when they are
> drinking a fresh cup of coffee or tea.
>
> GOOSE BUMP: A maneuver to use as a last resort when the Regular Bump
> doesn't get the attention you require... especially effective when
> combined with The Sniff. See above.
>
> LOVE: Is a feeling of intense affection, given freely and without
> restriction. The best way you can show your love is to wag your tail. If
> you're lucky, a human will love you in return. If not, you
> can always sniff their crotches.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 20:48:18 +0000
> From: Brian Moake <brian.moake@ATT.NET>
> Subject: Re: CHAT: Would your DOG do this? )
>
> Not my little angel....Just because he grabs plates or
> pans or whatever is in the sink with the smell of food
> on it, doesn't mean he would do anything like that...
> The fact that we keep our canned goods on the bottom
> shelves of our pantry has nothing to do with the fact
> that if he sees a bag, he has to open it (even if it is
> fake snow!!!)
>>>
>>
>> if you need a laugh today here's your chance.
>> naw they're to well trained right?????
>>
>> http://www.cyberdaniacsintl.com/tiny.htm
>>
>>
>>
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> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 17:49:49 -0400
> From: Jennifer Leslie <jenifer900@NEO.RR.COM>
> Subject: MEDICAL, CHAT: Fecal incontinent?
>
> My (almost) 13 year old girl, Lily, has started pooping in the house.
> Previously very well housebroken, this is getting quite frustrating!
>
> She gets taken out very frequently and stays out quite a while. Once back
> in the house she starts her "poop walk". It's almost as if she doesn't
> realize she had/has to go!
>
> Healthwise she is in very good shape. She's on generic Vasotec for her
> heart, glucosamine and missing link. All poop is solid (thankfully!)
>
> Any words of wisdom?
>
> Jennifer
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
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