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There are 11 messages totalling 452 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. HELP,DOGCARE,MEDICAL: potential GH owner
2. Chat:Track Adoptions
3. CHAT: Re: Track adoption
4. CHAT: Couple Names
5. chat: poem for all
6. Chat: cat safe or not cat safe? That is the question!
7. SPECIAL, CHAT: Andy's search.
8. CHAT: greyhound x coonhound
9. Chat: fecal incontinence
10. debate: REGAP website
11. Debate: Regap site
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 12:21:04 +1000
From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Anya=20Lav?= <gypsylav@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: HELP,DOGCARE,MEDICAL: potential GH owner
Hi People,
I've just joined because I'm interested in fostering &
possibly adopting a greyhound.
I am an experienced dog owner & trainer, I have always
loved sighthounds, but haven't had much at all to do
with them. I understand they have a very high
prey/chase drive, but what other 'special'
behaviour/problems do they have?
Interested to learn about behaviour, training ideas
and care & medical problems specific to GH's. Thanks
Respectfully
Anya<gypsylav@yahoo.com>
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 08:55:34 -0400
From: WENDY SWEARMAN <WSWEARMAN@EROLS.COM>
Subject: Chat:Track Adoptions
> Did it say on the application, "My husband doesn't want a dog"?
> People say
> all sorts of crap and you have to take what they say and digest it. =
Some
> people are consumate liars and actors.
In my initial phone conversation we discussed her desire to adopt. I =
asked
if she had discussed her decision with her family. She offered me that =
her
husband did not want a dog and it was for her. It was yet another =
reason
she was declined by our group. Perhaps she wouldn't had offered the
information if I had not asked, true, but that was just one of several
reasons she was declined. I am concerned that none of those flags were
raised at the track adoption kennel.
This is a very difficult item to address. From day one, my husband has =
said that if he had his way, we wouldn't have any dogs.
However, if you sneak up on him, you can catch him hugging even the ones =
he claims he doesn't like. He really got mushy when
we when to pick up dogs from the hauler. So some husbands and wives may =
say they don't want the dog, but you really need to find out how serious =
this claim is. I'd hate to loose all of these good homes, because of a =
spouses claim that they don't want a dog.=20
On the other hand, it may be the biggest red flag you could get.
Wendy Swearman
Bel Air, MD
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:43:28 -0400
From: "Dr. Kopal Barnouin-Jha" <kopalb@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: CHAT: Re: Track adoption
Mary Ann wrote:
>My thinking is that I'd prefer to adopt from a track.
>I want to be the first real home in my dog's life, his
>or her first non-track owner. I don't want to
>separate a dog from his/her foster home.
This would work as well as the adopter's knowledge of track life and
greyhounds. It could be especially important in distinguishing between,
say,sassiness, fear, and cluelessness.
It takes more than love. I prefer to foster our track placements. It also
helps me make a better placement, as at the end of a few weeks I have a
pretty decent idea about the dog's personality, issues, prey drive, etc.
Of course, adopters can (and should) learn all they can, but the experience
that foster homes provide is quite soothing to the dogs as they make their
transitions to home life. Most foster homes also have other ex-racers,
which seems to help.
Bottom line -- everyone has to start somewhere, so there's no problem
adopting right off the track, but if it's a first greyhound and especially
an only dog, a fostered dog would probably have an easier transition than a
track dog.
Kopal
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 11:31:16 -0400
From: George Bollenbacher <gmbandco@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: CHAT: Couple Names
What happened to Ken and Barbie?
Or Raggedy Ann and Raggedy Andy?
George and Betsy...
and Luke and Cameo ("All right...Who gave us these un-matching names??!!")
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 06:58:29 -0600
From: Black Dog Hill <koenenb@TELUSPLANET.NET>
Subject: chat: poem for all
This was posted to another list I participate in, thought some of you might
like it.
-----Original Message-----------
We Are Their Heroes
Copyright Jim Willis 2001
If you worry that you have not made a difference,
you have,
for only those who do not worry about it have not.
If you feel overwhelmed, if the weight of problems
is too heavy to bear,
remember it is a shared burden
and the strength of numbers can accomplish much.
If you think society and government are blind,
it only serves to remind that we need to change
one mind at a time, one law after another.
We effect change by cooperation, not by isolation.
If you consider that we cannot save them all,
and what difference does one make?,
you ought to know the joy of the one who is saved.
Mourn those we cannot save. It is a eulogy to their being.
Do not let their loss be in vain.
Be kind to yourself, remember your needs
and those of your family and friends of every species.
If you give everything, what will you have left for yourself,
or for them?
Strive to be happy and healthy. You are needed.
Achieving balance in life is a lifelong struggle.
We who help those who do not have all that they need
should be among the most grateful for what we have.
Be proud of your accomplishments, not your opinions.
The quality of your efforts is more important than the quantity.
Forgive your own deficiencies - sometimes your caring is sufficient.
Everyone can do something, it is up to you to do the thing you can.
A kind word and a gentle touch can change a life.
If a seething anger wells up within you, because people are the problem,
remember your humanity and that people are also the solution.
Concentrate on specific needs, pay attention to the individual -
they make up the whole.
See beyond the unlovable, the unattractive, the impure and the wounded -
see that their spirit is as deserving as the rest. Help them heal.
Their eyes are windows to their soul and the mirror of your sincerity.
All species, all beings, share this Earth in a chain of life.
Care more about what makes us alike than what separates us.
Policies, rules and regulations are not infallible.
Apply them judiciously, interpret them wisely.
No decision based purely on money is ever the right one.
Listen to your heart. Sometimes we have to do that which
we are most afraid of.
Be true to yourself and your beliefs.
Family may abandon you,
friends may disappoint you, strangers will ridicule you.
People shun what they do not understand.
Help them to understand - kindly, softly, gently.
Those who do not respect all life are to be pitied.
Often the wrongdoer is as in need of help as his victims.
Forgive, then teach by example.
Educate yourself or you cannot hope to teach others.
No action based in hatred is ever right and
anger drowns out wisdom.
Yours may be a voice crying in the wilderness,
make it a voice to be respected.
Listen more than you talk, be courteous and reliable.
Learn to ask for help. Never waiver from the truth.
Know that it takes a lot of strength to cry and
with every defeat, we learn.
All Creation celebrates that which is in its own best interest.
The Children are our hope - nurture them.
Nature is our legacy - protect it.
The Animals are our brethren - learn from them.
Your rewards will not be material, but they will be meaningful,
and the courage of your convictions can survive anything.
We are small boats cast adrift on a cruel sea, but someday
the tide will turn toward a safe harbor. No matter how dark
the storm clouds, or deep the pain of heartbreak - never forget:
We are their heroes.
~ Dedicated to all who have worked for change. May your efforts be blessed.
You have made a difference.
I wrote the above to remind myself of what's important, why I do what I
do, things I need to pay attention to. Perhaps it will have meaning for
anyone who has chosen to give something back or to work to change
things. We often give until we can't give anymore and wonder if things
will ever be different.
This is a difficult time of the year for anyone involved in animal
rescue - the annual avalanche of unwanted animals - as well as for those
who work for human social causes. As the temperature rises, many other
problems escalate. Take a moment to read "We Are Their Heroes" and
remind yourself that you are making a difference. You are welcome to
share the URL or the text.
All best,
Jim
tiergarten@onebox.com
http://jimwillis0.tripod.com/tiergarten/
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 07:24:09 -0600
From: Black Dog Hill <koenenb@TELUSPLANET.NET>
Subject: Chat: cat safe or not cat safe? That is the question!
We are fostering a lurcher, Buddy, that up until a couple of days ago has
been completely cat safe. He totally ignored the cats.
A day or two ago I noticed him reach up to the cat (above the dog on a
counter he shouldn't have been on - typical cat) and gently take the cat's
hind leg in his mouth. My "HEY" of shock made him stop what he was doing or
I may have seen more. Since then I have seen him, twice, snarling
(silently) at the cat and the cat is reacting like he should, stopped dead
in his tracks waiting for the dog to stop that nonsense before he moves one
more step. It's quite scary to see and the cat does act like he's under
some kind of attack so I think he knows it's not play of any kind. I always
interrupt that behaviour because I don't want it to escalate into something
else, in our house the dogs are NOT allowed to play with the cats under any
circumstances. We almost lost a barn cat once when I was a kid, to a couple
of dogs that got carried away 'playing' with the cat when we weren't home.
Has anyone experienced this behaviour before? I'm going to change the dog's
status to cat safe under supervision anyway but I'm wondering if I shouldn't
change it to completely NOT cat safe.
Cindy Brooks
Northwest Canadian Greyhound League
'all my best friends live with people'
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 09:57:08 -0400
From: Michael J McCann <greydogs@JUNO.COM>
Subject: SPECIAL, CHAT: Andy's search.
For all of the people who went to search for Andy this weekend, it must
have been a bit disappointing; going home empty handed. People from
three states drove hours to get to this remote area of VIrginia. They put
up hundreds of posters, talked with everyone they could find, showed off
their own hounds, got the press interested and searched a lot of
territory. Your hard work won't go unrewarded.
Searches like this are always frustrating and difficult. You look for
days at a time and never get to see the object of your seach. The aching
bones, blistered feet and poison ivy will all pay off though, when one of
the people you talked with, sees Andy and calls in the sighting. Brindle
hounds are very difficult to find in territory like this. He may be
unapproachable, but with just one sighting, you'll be able to narrow down
the search area and set a Have a Hart.
For those of you who have been searching for weeks, the help must be very
welcome. For those of you who went home dicouraged; don't be. You
accomplished a lot. If Andy is still there, someone will see him and call
in.
Michael McCann
Boston.
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 09:51:28 -0600
From: Black Dog Hill <koenenb@TELUSPLANET.NET>
Subject: CHAT: greyhound x coonhound
There are several breeds of sighthound that have long floppy ears but look
almost identicle to a greyhound otherwise. Sloughi is just one of the those
breeds but I think there are several others.
Cindy Brooks
Northwest Canadian Greyhound League
'all my best friends live with people'
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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 19:04:40 -0500
From: Lori Reynolds <lorireynolds@JUNO.COM>
Subject: CHAT: greyhound x coonhound
What a bizarre coincidence -- after I read about greyhound and coonhound
mixes today, my husband came home from work and told me he saw a dog
today in Ladd, IL (near Lasalle-Peru) that looked like a greyhound mixed
with Jedd Clampett's dog -- a coonhound! He said one of his customers
that knows we have whippets told him there was a whippet that was kept
outside all winter, so Eddie went by the address his customer gave him to
see what was up. Eddie said it wasn't a whippet, but a greyhound with
long floppy ears that looked like "Duke."
Lori Reynolds in Peoria, IL -- Happy Hound Bakery at Happy Hound Hollow
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 11:13:51 -0500
From: Gretchen Meyer <meyergl@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Chat: fecal incontinence
><< Jennifer wrote:
> >My (almost) 13 year old girl, Lily, has started pooping in the house.
> >Previously very well housebroken, this is getting quite frustrating!
<other replies snipped>
Tried to send this earlier, got kicked off. :-(
We aren't dealing with the *incontinence* part,
but I have definitely noticed that Ace (13) has
a need for a fair amount of walking to help get
things moving. Not running, not bunny-hopping,
just walking. Guess it stimulates the right
muscles. I don't know if Lily goes out in a fenced
yard or on a leash, but it would probably help to
walk her on-leash a couple of times a day until she's
taken care of some business.
Hope this helps -
Gretchen, Ace & Rocky
meyergl@hotmail.com
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 07:08:33 -0500
From: Lenka Perron <lenka@PROVIDE.NET>
Subject: debate: REGAP website
> Karen wrote:
There are many folks who are neutral and will someday decide which side of
the fence they will fall on.
They will learn by keeping an open mind and actively learning that there are
good and bad in all aspects of
life.
Lenka wrote: Nice observation Karen. I was one of those neutral, open
minded people from 1989 until 1994, then I decided what side of the fence I
would be on after keeping an "open mind" and "learning the facts".
By the way, if you are so neutral, have you ever been "horrified" by those
sites/groups that promote greyhound racing????? But I'm glad to see your
post, and that Melani's essay on neutrality struck a raw nerve.
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 11:46:04 EDT
From: Linda Reiha <LREIHA@AOL.COM>
Subject: Debate: Regap site
<<Karen Jax said: How can an adoption
group voice such a negative opinion of track related adoption groups?
Lenka said: For those of you who are being misinformed by someone who did
not thoroughly read the article by Meloni Nardone, the scenario given
pertained to a fabricated adoption group for the sake of providing an
example, not specifically a track related adoption group as mistakenly
communicated by Ms. Jax.
The point of the article is taking a neutral position, not insulting
adoption groups, track based or not.
For anyone who would like to read this essay for themselves, please do. It
is meant to be thought provoking and stir debate, so long as folks read it
>>
First of all, i want to say that i think Regap's site is fabulous.
Secondly, i want to say that i think the work Regap does is fabulous, as
well.
It's not easy being what might be perceived as a "minority" especially on
this list when it comes to speaking ones mind clearly and articulately--and
speaking out against the racing industry. There are only a few rescue
groups in Michigan (MGC is also one of those groups) that speaks out and
takes a stand and makes a difference by educating the public, sometimes one
person at a time.
And along that educational theme is the article on Regap's site by Melani
Nardone, "The Myth of Neutrality". Everyone should take the time to READ
this article, and anyone who considers themself "neutral", really does need
to take some time to "digest" the contents of this essay. It's provocative,
and challenging, and might make some folks uncomfortable. Possibly angry.
But those are just the things that spark change and growth. And that can be
scarey for some people, too. And maybe, just maybe it might spark some
worth-while discussion.
Cheers-
Linda Reiha
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