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There are 15 messages totalling 462 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. Chat: dogs kept outside
2. Chat: cat safe or not cat safe? That is the question!
3. ADMIN: Its the Greyhound-l
4. CHAT: track adoption
5. CHAT: Anyone got the web address for the missing digests?
6. CHAT, DEBATE: Regap
7. Chat: Re: Mail Still Missing!
8. CHAT: Special Portrait Prices
9. debate: REGAP website
10. CHAT: Pair Name
11. HELP,DOGCARE,MEDICAL: potential GH owner
12. Chat: Cleaning
13. Chat: fecal incontinence
14. RESOURCE: GEM Ebay Auction Ended, Thank You
15. CHAT: Siblings? Montechina & P's Betco
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:10:14 -0600
From: Black Dog Hill <koenenb@TELUSPLANET.NET>
Subject: Chat: dogs kept outside
I'm sorry, I hate to think I'm going to start any kind of warring debate but
I don't think I want to put this under debate, YET!
Many comments have been made to the list regarding dogs left outside all the
time and I have to comment on this. Without knowing that household and dog
please don't assume the dog is being abused by being left outside alot.
Some dogs hate being left alone inside a crate or building and they are calm
if left outside as compared to left inside. I have experienced this in one
of our foster dogs. He would totally ruin a house if left alone inside for
even a minute but was o.k. outside. So the best thing for the dog was to
leave him outside when we went to work or anywhere. Yes, we tied him, it
was safer than risking him escaping if someone opened our gate or he decided
to become a jumper. We tied him using the sled dog tie-out method which
allows the dog movement without risk of being tangled. We made sure he had
plenty of shelter from both cold and heat and we made sure he had plenty of
water and food. We obviously couldn't be home 24/7 with the dog, so this
was an alternative to making him suffer in the crate or house.
If I have to choose between, crating my dog for 8 or more hours when I have
to work or leaving them outside where they have room to walk around, go
potty, enjoy the fresh air, etc. Guess what?... I think outside is better,
YES even in winter (ooooh, I'm gonna get slaughtered for coming out of the
closet on that one!) As long as I'm sure the dogs are safe and comfortable
(whatever the weather) I think they are better off outside than cooped up in
the house or in a crate.
For further information, up here in northern Canada many rural people keep a
pack of coyote hunting greyhounds. They live outside 365 days a year in all
weather. They are all tied to their dog houses unless they are out hunting.
I DON'T AGREE WITH IT BUT IT HAPPENS. The track where our dogs come from
also leaves the dogs outside all year. My point is; as much as we love to
baby our greyhounds they are much tougher than we give them credit for and
can and do survive if left outside. Some dogs even prefer it, lounging
around in the sun or fresh air. They are, after all.....gasp, dogs (but
don't tell my sissy, bedhogs that, they think they are royalty.)
running and ducking all the flames that are going to roast my A**
Cindy Brooks
Northwest Canadian Greyhound League
'all my best friends live with people'
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:32:21 +0000
From: Brian Moake <brian.moake@ATT.NET>
Subject: Re: Chat: cat safe or not cat safe? That is the question!
does the cat ever do anything to the dog? Ours will
smack the dog occasoinally, just because he walked near
him. When the dog gets tired of it, he growls, barks
and/or chases the catdown the hallway.
> We are fostering a lurcher, Buddy, that up until a couple of days ago has
> been completely cat safe. He totally ignored the cats.
>
> A day or two ago I noticed him reach up to the cat (above the dog on a
> counter he shouldn't have been on - typical cat) and gently take the cat's
> hind leg in his mouth. My "HEY" of shock made him stop what he was doing or
> I may have seen more. Since then I have seen him, twice, snarling
> (silently) at the cat and the cat is reacting like he should, stopped dead
> in his tracks waiting for the dog to stop that nonsense before he moves one
> more step. It's quite scary to see and the cat does act like he's under
> some kind of attack so I think he knows it's not play of any kind. I always
> interrupt that behaviour because I don't want it to escalate into something
> else, in our house the dogs are NOT allowed to play with the cats under any
> circumstances. We almost lost a barn cat once when I was a kid, to a couple
> of dogs that got carried away 'playing' with the cat when we weren't home.
>
> Has anyone experienced this behaviour before? I'm going to change the dog's
> status to cat safe under supervision anyway but I'm wondering if I shouldn't
> change it to completely NOT cat safe.
>
> Cindy Brooks
> Northwest Canadian Greyhound League
>
> 'all my best friends live with people'
>
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 12:29:54 -0500
From: Ellen Schneiderman <ejks@EXECPC.COM>
Subject: ADMIN: Its the Greyhound-l
HI
Please please please...remember this is a greyhound list. It is not a list
for arranging CUR rides for any other breed. It is not a list for
discussing your cat's medical condition.
I hate to be a hard ass, but list volume is high, I'm dealing will tons of
AOL fall out, and it is just too time consuming to focus on anything but
Greyhounds.
There are other lists for other breeds and species. I am happy to direct
anybody to a more appropriate resource.
Thanks for your understanding.
Ellen
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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 20:47:15 -0700
From: Suzanne Waldenberger <suzanne@FOLKLORIST.ZZN.COM>
Subject: Re: CHAT: track adoption
> I want to be the first real home in my dog's life, his
> or her first non-track owner. I don't want to
> separate a dog from his/her foster home. I'd be
> interested you the reactions of those of you who know
> far more about this than I do.
Don't assume that every adoption group has as many foster homes as
dogs. We kennel all of our dogs when we first get them. Once they
have been spayed or neutered, and had all their shots, as many as
possible are placed into the foster homes we've got. But right now
all of our foster homes have cats, so any dog not cat-safe stays at
the kennel, and their adoptor is their first home.
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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 23:22:18 -0500
From: Therese Skinner <gentlehugs@JUNO.COM>
Subject: CHAT: Anyone got the web address for the missing digests?
I would appreciate it very much if someone would privately send me the
link again to the website with the missing digests on it, please. I have
a friend on AOL who is still not getting any mail at all for GH L.
Thanks!
G.entle H.ugs,
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 07:11:51 -0500
From: Lori Reynolds <lorireynolds@JUNO.COM>
Subject: CHAT, DEBATE: Regap
You folks better watch what you say about Regap. Shortly after joining
this list in '96, I made some comments on the list about the local Regap
person, and I was quickly threatened with a lawsuit.
Lori Reynolds in Peoria, IL -- Happy Hound Bakery at Happy Hound Hollow
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 08:59:05 EDT
From: Slick Vic <LuvMyGreys@AOL.COM>
Subject: Chat: Re: Mail Still Missing!
I'm on AOL but I don't get the digest. I get the individual postings and
its
working just fine for me. You might want to change your settings to
individual postings until the situtation is rectified.
Slick Vic
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 09:28:34 EDT
From: Jen Howard <BigCats11@AOL.COM>
Subject: CHAT: Special Portrait Prices
Hello All,
Oh boy where do I start. Last Tuesday my Griffin had to be rushed to the ER
vet with a high fever. It all started with a nick on his leg that looked
like absolutely nothing. A few weeks went by and he was absolutely fine,
then WHAM. It was infected and he got a fever. This happened so suddenly
it
is frightening.
Last week was hell on me but mostly on my sweet boy who had a will to live.
I'm going to try and shorten this a bit. He had all the signs of a TBD
(autoimmune) and the ER doc started him on Doxycycline among others. His
erhlychia came back negative and Babesia hadn't come in yet the doc stopped
the Doxy, without my knowledge, after two days. He looked absolutely
horrible with edema in all four legs and in his chin and neck where they
were
drawing blood. He was also hemoraghing under the skin in different spots
and
his infected leg was deep purple and ugly. For the first two days he
wouldn't
move or eat. I took my Aiko in to see him and that was a huge help in his
recovery and the fact I asked my reg vet to step in. With the help and
persistence of him and Suzanne Stack, Griffin is on his way back. Thank doG
I got him out of the ER.
His blood counts were so dangerously low but I could see in his eyes he was
fighting and wanted to live. He'd get up to walk and pee to everyones
surprise and fought. The ER doc told me twice I should think about letting
him go, but I knew differently.
Just 1 day after leaving the ER and being in the care of my regular vet
Griffin looked like a new dog. He is also coming HOME at nights. Edema
gone,
spunkiness back, eating, and fighting to pull thru this. He's lived up to
his name - Griffin. The Griffin is a mythicalogical creature with the head
of an eagle (spirit), body of a lion (heart & strength) and the tail of a
serpent. I and others admire this dogs will to live.
Needless to say my bills are astronomical. I am offering my pet portraits
at
a discounted price in hopes to help me with the bills. If anyone would be
interested please contact me at BigCats11@aol.com. My sizes start at 5" X
7"
thru 18" X 24". The prices include the frame and your choice of wood for
that frame. I guarantee all my work. You can see samples at
www.crittergallery.com.
Also any groups out there who are having picnics and events everything on my
site is sold in wholesale so you can make a nice profit. Please take a look
at let me know if you may be interested in anything.
Thank you in advance.
Sincerely,
Jen
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 09:27:10 -0500
From: Lenka Perron <lenka@PROVIDE.NET>
Subject: debate: REGAP website
Karen Jax said: How can an adoption
group voice such a negative opinion of track related adoption groups?
Lenka said: For those of you who are being misinformed by someone who did
not thoroughly read the article by Meloni Nardone, the scenario given
pertained to a fabricated adoption group for the sake of providing an
example, not specifically a track related adoption group as mistakenly
communicated by Ms. Jax.
The point of the article is taking a neutral position, not insulting
adoption groups, track based or not.
For anyone who would like to read this essay for themselves, please do. It
is meant to be thought provoking and stir debate, so long as folks read it
properly:
Link: http://www.rescuedgreyhounds.com/endracing/the_myth.html
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 11:09:16 -0400
From: Jean Pletl <greypal@MINDSPRING.COM>
Subject: CHAT: Pair Name
Griffin and Sabine
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 15:38:09 +0000
From: Brian Moake <brian.moake@ATT.NET>
Subject: Re: HELP,DOGCARE,MEDICAL: potential GH owner
What part of the country are you in? there is probably a
group in your area.
Each dog has his/her own personality. Basically, you can
figure out what you are looking for and a good org can
tell you what they have to fit that.
They are 45mph couch potatoes! They get a couple of 15
minute bursts of energy each day. the rest of the time
they just layaround.
> Hi People,
>
> I've just joined because I'm interested in fostering &
> possibly adopting a greyhound.
>
> I am an experienced dog owner & trainer, I have always
> loved sighthounds, but haven't had much at all to do
> with them. I understand they have a very high
> prey/chase drive, but what other 'special'
> behaviour/problems do they have?
>
> Interested to learn about behaviour, training ideas
> and care & medical problems specific to GH's. Thanks
>
> Respectfully
> Anya<gypsylav@yahoo.com>
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 13:07:12 -0400
From: Gregory Winkelman <4winks@ACCNORWALK.COM>
Subject: Chat: Cleaning
Kelly wrote:
now coughing, and it's one of my foster girls...drinking out of the bucket
of Spic and Span water! She only had a few slurps, but I dial the vet
anyhow. He's at lunch and the woman suggests I call Poison Control. I did.
Got the nicest young woman. Spic and Span, diluted and in a small amount,
might cause nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea. No need to worry and no
charge!
> Boy Kelly I know I would never have that problem. Who finds time to
clean around here!
The machines purrin, kitchen floors will have to wait.
Hope to see you all soon at Michigan, Indiana and Pennsyvania gatherings in
June. If you need anything made up special for you or Father's Day call
like real soon.
Have a good one,
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 11:30:58 -0500
From: Sistertex <sistertex@SOFTWORKSINC.NET>
Subject: Re: Chat: fecal incontinence
> ><< Jennifer wrote:
> > >My (almost) 13 year old girl, Lily, has started pooping in the house.
> > >Previously very well housebroken, this is getting quite frustrating!
>
Hi,
We had this problem with Tex... he was the same age as your Lily. He had
some severe rear-end weakness going on and ended up on Pred. to help for a
while. But still there were times when he was just standing there and it
would start to come.
But I have other elder girls and boys. And it could also be senility
setting in. We have just started one of our hounds on a medication for it
to see if it helps any.
Robin L
www.gpa.mn.org
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 13:02:51 -0400
From: Jessica Brez <furryfriends3@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: RESOURCE: GEM Ebay Auction Ended, Thank You
Greythounds of Eastern Michigan would like to thank everyone who
participated in the Ebay Auction for Flying Neptune. The beautiful, white
porcelain greyhound statue brought in $89. In addition to the Ebay
fundraiser, a generous family saw Neptune's story and sent GEM a donation
check. Thank you again.
Sincerely,
Jessica Brezinski
Ebay and Meet & Greet Coordinator
Greythounds of Eastern Michigan
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 11:11:17 -0700
From: Robert Rehberg <k.rehberg@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject: CHAT: Siblings? Montechina & P's Betco
Any siblings out there? I have Coka Cola Rain (Riley)
born 7-10-97. Parents: Montechina & P's Betco.
Would love to find them!
Kerry in Phoenix
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